BillingsLUG

Where

The BillingsLUG meets the 3rd Thursday of the month.

This month: Valley Welders Office
1123 3rd Ave. N.
Billings, MT 59101

When

Meetings start at 7PM and have no formal ending time but usually end around 9:30PM.




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February meeting

February's BillingsLUG meeting is tomorrow (Thursday) at 7PM. We are meeting at the new shop!

Yellowstone Systems
1300 24th St W
Billings

(corner of 24th & Grand next to CVS)

For this meeting we plan to update our MAME arcade machine with Linux. Will probably use Mythbuntu distro and set up some emulators!

-shawn

http://lannocc.com/blug


lannocc's picture

December!

We'd like to establish a WDS-based mesh network with RouterBoard 751s. We'll also flash a PicoStation with Unify. Anyone interested in wireless and Linux is welcome!

Meeting at 7PM Thurs., Dec 15 at:

Yellowstone Systems
1327 Central Ave

http://lannocc.com/blug


users

What's the age group showing up for these meetings?


lannocc's picture

Sorry to reply so late. Here

Sorry to reply so late. Here at the Billings LUG we have about 4 regular members show up to nearly every meeting, ages ranging about 30-40.

-shawn

http://lannocc.com/blug


lannocc's picture

November -- Wardriving in Billings

This month will be a mobile meeting! Feel free to join us at Yellowstone Systems as we pile into Brian's minivan and drive around Billings locating wireless access points. We will be doing a survey of secure vs. open access points in the 2.4GHz and possibly 5GHz bands. We'll try to make use of the Backtrack Linux distribution in our search.

We will meet at 7PM tomorrow (Thurs., Nov. 17) at:

Yellowstone Systems
1327 Central Ave

http://lannocc.com/blug


lannocc's picture

Last night's wardriving

Last night's wardriving went quite well. It didn't take long to install the Backtrack 5 R1 distro (32-bit GNOME edition) on a laptop and get Kismet running with a USB GPS device and USB radio listening on 2.4 and 5GHz channels, thanks to the easy guide at http://blog.securityactive.co.uk/2009/07/17/wardriving-with-kismet-newcore-and-backtrack-4.

Here's a snapshot of what was produced in Google Earth from the data gathered by Kismet (click for larger view):

-shawn

http://lannocc.com/blug

Worzie's picture

Sweet! Wish I could have

Sweet! Wish I could have made it to this one :-/

You guys rock!

W


lannocc's picture

Next

Next time!

-shawn

http://lannocc.com/blug


lannocc's picture

October meeting

Some of us will be available tomorrow at Yellowstone Systems for our monthly LUG meeting. There is lots to work on here at the shop but the initial focus will be setting up replication in OpenLDAP. We have one remote LDAP server handling authentication for our subnet and would like it replicated locally. It looks fairly straightforward but I have not personally done it yet so there may be a little trial and error involved.

This might not take the full time slot and additional topic ideas are of course welcomed!

We will meet at 7 PM at:

Yellowstone Systems
1327 Central Ave
Billings

http://lannocc.com/blug


lannocc's picture

August meeting

Thanks to Dan D. for hosting our August meeting. We had a total of 5 people in attendance. This meeting had no specific topic but instead was an open forum where we discussed possible topics and direction for future meetings and ideas to increase attendance.

What follows below are ideas we came up with and is just a start.

TOPICS
======
* ISPConfig
* Setting up a Ubuntu desktop
* Using GIMP
* Retro PCs (Commodore, Atari, Tandy/RadioShack, etc.)
* Setting up MythTV or XBMC

OUTREACH / PROMOTION
====================
* Expand the focus of the club so we are not limited specifically to Linux topics; we have users with experience in networking, web development, application programming, and more
* Host a computer clinic to offer a day of free PC troubleshooting, repair, and general Q&A
* Start a Facebook page to promote around the Billings region
* I volunteered to coordinate promotion activities for the group

NEXT MONTH
==========
* For next month we would like to show how to set up a Wiki engine that we could use on the billingslug.org site

Please feel free to add to these lists.

http://lannocc.com/blug


http://lannocc.com/blug is

http://lannocc.com/blug is down :(

I would add zoneminder to the topics list.


lannocc's picture

That's another good topic.

That's another good topic. Yeah, my site is down until Monday probably... but there is no new information there.

-shawn

http://lannocc.com/blug


lannocc's picture

THU July 21

Hey everyone,

I'm at my operations office tonight working on reformatting my laptop to set up virtualization for Gentoo Linux and Windows Vista. Right now a full backup is nearing completion and then I will move forward with virtualization software install. My Intel CPU supports hardware virtualization (`grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo`) so I will be looking at software to utilize that. I will be here most of the evening working and chatting about Linux. Anyone is welcome to drop by!

Lannocc operations is in the Metro Park Office & Industrial building at
1148 1st Ave N. Look for the EZ Money Check Cashing sign. Park in the
back lot and enter through door on east side. I'll put a sign up.

http://lannocc.com/blug


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VirtualBox

Just wanted to post an update on how things went. During the meeting we had to wait for a bit while a full backup (ultimately unnecessary) completed and then I emerged the app-emulation/virtualbox-bin package from Portage on my Dell laptop running Gentoo Linux. Merge went quickly (binary package) and we created a new dynamic disk image for Windows, set to a maximum of 20GB. I inserted my Dell OEM Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit CD that shipped with the laptop and ran through the Windows install within VirtualBox with absolutely no problems.

Everything just worked! I spent the next few days slowly getting Windows updates and service packs installed through Windows Update. This was all necessary so I could move away from my Windows XP VMWare image in order to test sites against Internet Explorer 9.

Thanks to everyone who showed up. I look forward to next month's meeting!

-shawn

http://lannocc.com/blug


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THU June 16

This week I can show off a working shell interpreter I'm writing for a web-based (Java Tomcat) XML distribution I am hacking together. It's Linux-related in that my shell is following Bash as I implement new features and I'm laying out files and processes in FHS fashion, and it makes use of a growing number of GPL-licensed libraries.

http://lannocc.com/blug


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June meeting tonight

Hey everyone,

I'll be at my operations office tonight at 7:30 for anyone who wants to show up and talk about Linux stuff. I can show off a simple shell parser I have started for a sort of web-based "distribution", and I have started a Mercurial code repository to do something with Gentoo for BillingsLUG. It's another informal meeting tonight and anyone is welcome.

Lannocc operations is in the Metro Park Office & Industrial building at
1148 1st Ave N. Look for the EZ Money Check Cashing sign. Park in the
back lot and enter through door on east side. I'll put a sign up.

7:30 PM through 8:30 PM I'll be there.

http://lannocc.com/blug


BillingsLUG, Candidate Days, and more...

I would like to propose any of the following days as potential *UG/LUG days in Billings:
June 2, 9, 16, 23, 30

Please reply with what days you would be interested and/or able to attend.

Rather than any one specific subject matter, I suggest a somewhat open forum with a few starter subjects such as:
A linux distro as a spin of gentoo, debian, or fedora
Freeswitch and Asterisk as ip pbx

Also, if you would, reply with any subject matter you feel you are skilled in and could spread some knowledge about to the group as our skills are quite diverse. I would be glad to help someone out with what I know:
I do SQL (MS-SQL, postgresql), bash scripts, Cisco (routers, vpns), asterisk w/ freepbx, pfsense, Linux and Windows administration, Active Directory, etc etc.

There are a few facilities available such as my conference room downtown.

I am also interested in setting up a computer clinic at a local school or something close like Shepard or Park City. Usually a good place to help people out and a nice way to hand out business cards for those that are self employed. I would suspect that we could partner with another group like Kiwanis who are already pretty good at setting these things up. Sam Thomas at Integra who is a member of Kiwanis would probably be on-board and excited about the prospect.


lannocc's picture

June 9?

Dan, were you still looking to try to get together on a day other than the regular meeting date? I am available tomorrow, June 9 if you still want hang out and toss ideas around.

Due to the silence it sounds like I could be the only other person there. I started a Mercurial repository for some sort of branded Gentoo distro for the BillingsLUG and I would be happy to host additional repositories for other group projects as well. I don't have a LiveCD ready yet but I may still be on track to have that by the regular meeting time next week.

My own page devoted to BillingsLUG projects and presentations is at http://lannocc.com/blug

-shawn


?

I don't know. Anyone else interested?


lannocc's picture

I take that to mean no then,

I take that to mean no then, and I probably won't get to check emails again until late this evening so I'm making other plans.

So for the regular time next week we can still meet at my ops office again and I don't care if I'm the only one who shows up, I have a few nifty things to work on or talk about for those who come around.

http://lannocc.com


agreed

Agreed. lets try to get a few people onboard for next week.


lannocc's picture

Well, for June most of those

Well, for June most of those days would work for me except possibly the 23rd when I may be out of town. Dan has a facility as do I and I'm sure others as well so it'd be great if try to rotate where we meet. I like the idea of doing something with Kiwanis since I have been thinking of personally getting involved with that organization anyways. If we want to do the PC clinic thing we should think about planning over a couple of our next meetings. I know a couple years ago we started planning some sort of install-fest yet our momentum fizzled out and it never happened.

I really like the idea of seeing some of the major distros installed again, looking at how they differ, and trying our hands at remixing a few of them as a group effort for some locally-branded distributions. I have a Gentoo starter, Scott has a MontanaLinux Fedora remix and he mentions another Debian-based distro from the HelenaLUG. I'm of the opinion that the more we get our hands on and play with the better; this is just for fun.

http://lannocc.com


lannocc's picture

May BillingsLUG TONIGHT 7:30 PM

Fellow LUsers (Linux Users),

Am I the only one who has missed out on too many meetings recently? I
know I wish I could have been around for more and have made time
available for our "regular" scheduled time tonight.

There is no presentation. Bring an idea or just show up and listen to me
talk about creating and organizing XML processing tools into a web
application whose URLs closely follow the FHS (Filesystem Hierarchy
Standard -- http://www.pathname.com/fhs/). I have started with Orbeon
(http://orbeon.com) and stripped it down so right now I only use their
descriptive XPL (XML Pipeline Language -- W3C member submission draft
since 2005). The idea is to lay things out in a way familiar to a
moderate Linux user/developer.

I would also like to get the ball rolling on a customized distribution
representing the Billings Linux Users Group. Even if we just take Ubuntu
and change one graphic and one line of text, it is a start and something
anyone can contribute to, beginner or expert. I also have a Gentoo base
we could start from.

Lannocc operations is in the Metro Park Office & Industrial building at
1148 1st Ave N. Look for the EZ Money Check Cashing sign. Park in the
back and enter through door on east side. I'll put a sign up.

7:30 PM through 8:30 PM I'll be there.

-shawn


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Thank you to everyone who

Thank you to everyone who came out on Thursday! I am looking forward to our future meetings.

http://lannocc.com


Billings LUG

Shawn, the last few LUGS have had some pretty poor turnout. I would definitely come on a regular basis if we could get 5 or more people and have a showing. Also, my shop is available just about any time.


February LUG

My facility is available for a LUG on the 17th. If anyone wants to have one please let me know. The last two have basically fizzled.


JANUARY 2011 Billings LUG

The Billings LUG is tonight! Thursday Jan 20th. Come on by, the address is 1123 3rd ave North.

Tonight's discussion will be on SQL Basics


Worzie's picture

September 2010 Meeting

We are looking at a couple special meetings this week! I suppose to
make up for the lack of meetings the last few months.

Plans are still being hashed out, so, please stay tuned. Looking at
both Wednesday (setup) and Thursday (meeting). (22-23)

Dan Denson who has hosted a few meetings would like to setup a pfsense
lab and demonstration.

Tentatively I'd say we'll meet at 7 PM both nights at Valley Welders
Office, 1123 3rd Ave. N.

We'll firm up plans tomorrow morning. Join us in IRC (see
http://www.montanalinux.org for info on the channel), or reply to this
email to make suggestions. Dinner ideas?

Warren


Re: [BillingsLUG] September Meeting

The official LUG (*UG) will be Thursday the 23rd officially starting at 7pm. You may show up as early as 6pm if you like, I will be present.
Subject: pfsense LAB + discussion on other open source *BSD/Linux router and firewall packages such as Vyatta, Zeroshell, pfsense, etc

Please bring your own drinks, unfortunately no alcohol on the premises. Also, you are welcome to bring a laptop as we will configure a hub and spoke VPN with 3 pfsense installs.

Tonight I will be finalizing some setup for the lab on Thursday as well as chatting with whomever shows up.

I also have a XenServer install available and high speed internet if you would like to check out some commercial virtualization.

The address is 1123 3rd Avenue North. I can be reached at 4066907257 if you cant find the place. There is a 7' metal sign at ground level that says 'AWG' near the front door.

Thanks


June 2010 Meeting

For tomorrow's meeting, I will be demonstrating how to modify a pre-built virtual appliance into a multimedia server for TiVo DVRs. This demo will highlight the TurnKey Linux and pyTivo projects.

Our gracious venue host for this month is Brian K. of Yellowstone Systems (www.yellowstonesystems.com). The meeting location is 1327 Central Ave at 7pm.

I'll be bringing cans of San Pellegrino Limonata and Aranciata for your imbibing pleasure.

Brian I.


May 2010 Meeting

Dan (syadnom on #ubuntu-montana) will be showing FreePBX 2 as well as the current developer release of FreePBX 3. There will also be Astra IP phone handsets to use as well, making for a great hands on experience for everyone. The talk will cover the function, configuration and auto deployment of the Astra phones using FreePBX, the new FreePBX 3 interface and what the new and upcoming FreeSWITCH has in store for us.


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April 2010 Meeting -- New venue!

At this month's meeting (Thursday 4/15) I will be showing how to use the dvdauthor tools along with GIMP and a little Cinelerra to create animated DVD menus.

Please note the change of venue for this month. Dan (syadnom on #ubuntu-montana) has been gracious enough to offer up his conference room for this meeting. The address is:

320 N 11th St
Billings, MT

The entrance is on 3rd Ave. As usual the meeting starts at 7pm.


March 2010 Meeting

Tonight's meeting will again be at Yellowstone Systems at 7:00 PM. The address is:

1327 Central Ave.
Billings, MT 59102

Brian will be presenting data recovery options using freely available Linux tools such as ddrescue and gparted in conjuntion with live CD's such as Ubuntu Desktop and Clonezilla. Hope to see you all there!


February 2010 Meeting

I'm pleased to announce we will be having a meeting tonight at 7:00PM. Brian Kelly owner of Yellowstone Systems has offered to host us tonight. The address is:

1327 Central Ave.
Billings, MT 59102

Tonight's agenda will include a tour of Brian's new business, Linux news and general Linux User Group discussion.

We have possible future presentation topics including:

  • DVD video authoring under Linux, including menu authoring
  • Ubuntu Server Edition JeOS for PyTivo
  • PXE Booting for Fun, Installing, Imaging and More
  • System Recovery using Linux tools (ddrescue, dd, dcfldd, gparted, System Recovery CD)
  • Hugin - Panorama photo stitcher

If any of these topic interest you, please make your vote at tonight's meeting. We are also looking for volunteers to present a topic. If you have something you wish to share, please let us know.


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August 2009 Meeting

Greetings BillingsLUGgers,

I picked up a few XO OLPC's from Scott Dowdle from the BozemanLUG a couple weeks ago on my way through. Unfortunately I was out of town another week following and was unable to have them dispersed for play. I need to return them next week before BozemanLUG's next meeting when they get returned to the rightful owner.

Fortunately I will be bringing them to this weeks meeting Thursday evening starting at 7PM. They are much funner to use in a mesh or on the net than having only one.

Tonight we will be meeting at Off The Leaf Coffee Bar at 819 Grand Avenue.

See you there at 7.


lannocc's picture

July 2009 Meeting

This month I would like to give another LDAP presentation. I am using OpenLDAP for authentication of system accounts, integrated with Postfix and Courier-IMAP for virtual mail addresses, and serving DNS records for BIND.


sounds good

I have been authenticating postfix and dovecot against mysql. Will be interesting to chat with someone with some practical knowledge. Always wondered how LDAP would handle system logins, email, and other services from one database.


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Our QMAIL LDAP experience.

We used Redhat ES3, qmail and LDAP providing free email accounts for students for 5 or 6 years. All was installed on one machine with tons of disk space. LDAP was a really nice fit for us cause it provided open source options for account and mail management. Eventually all of that was deemed unnecessary and about the only thing to do was the disk management, filter the spam, check for virus and upload/create the new student account/mail box(s). We wound up with thousands and thousands of accounts over time and LDAP didn't ever seem to blink or complain. We had our problems but LDAP was never one of them. I learned early on to feed it, quietly leave the room, leave it alone and let it do its thing. Thanks LDAP.


Worzie's picture

April 2009 Meeting

Billings Linux Users Group

Where:

1943 Main Street
Front door and up the stairs above Butt's Gun Sales

When:

7:00 PM on Thursday April 16th, 2009

Speakers:

Brian Vincent

Talk:

WINE ("Wine Is Not an Emulator")

Abstract:

  • What is Wine?
  • History of Wine development
  • A few demos
  • Wine architecture / Linux integration
  • Usage tips and tricks
  • What the backend development process is like
  • Future of Wine

  • Worzie's picture

    November 2008 Meeting

    Billings Linux Users Group

    Where:

    Computer4Kids, 4017 1st Ave South.
    North side of street.

    When:

    7PM on Thursday November 20th, 2008

    Speakers:

  • Warren Sanders
  • Talk:

  • BackupPC
  • Virtual User Mail System
  • Abstract:

    In the past most of our talks have been focused on howto installations
    and very little to do with the end result. For this presentation, I
    want to do a little show-n-tell. These are projects I have been working
    on for the past couple months.

    BackupPC has matured enough as a front-end web-app and has replaced my
    long used dirvish system.

    My email server is now a virtual user base using mysql, postfix,
    courier, clamav, spamassassin, pyzor, managed by mailscanner and mailwatch.

    Lastly, we need to do a check-in on how our tasks for the planned
    installfest is going.


    Backups

    I wish that I would have attended. I admin a network in Billings and use backuppc to handle a number of linux and unix (sco, tru64) servers as well as a number of desktops. I am active on the backuppc mailing lists as well and make regular contrubutions.

    I hope to make it to next thursdays meet!


    Worzie's picture

    October 2008 Meeting

    Billings Linux Users Group

    Where:

    Computer4Kids, 4017 1st Ave South.
    North side of street.

    When:

    7PM on Thursday October 16th, 2008

    Speakers:

  • Andrew Niemantsverdriet
  • Dan Spencer
  • (group project)

  • Talk:

  • DRBL
  • FOG
  • Abstract:

    Diskless Remote Boot in Linux (DRBL) provides a diskless or systemless environment for client machines. DRBL uses distributed hardware resources and makes it possible for clients to fully access local hardware. It also includes Clonezilla, a partitioning and disk cloning utility.

    FreeGohst (FOG) is a free open-source cloning/imaging solution/rescue suite. An alternate solution used to image Windows XP, Vista PCs using PXE, PartImage, and a Web GUI to tie it together. Includes features like memory and disk test, disk wipe and AV scan.


    Oct 16 Meeting Presentation Notes

    I would love to be a fly on the wall at your meeting tonight! But with the storm system between Boise and Bilings, even the fly would be grounded and a bit of long walk for a penquine. Would it be possible to get presentation or meeting notes for the presentations on DBRL and FOG.

    Keep up the great work.

    Thanks,

    Clint Tinsley


    Worzie's picture

    We may be able to come up

    We may be able to come up with something. This meeting tonight is more of a project than a presentation. But there might be something worth mentioning as a blog about our success/failure.

    Update: We're talking perhaps video now. We'll see.

    Thanks for the encouragement!

    --
    Warren


    Meeting Follow-up

    How'd did the meeting go a week ago last Thursday? Been watching for details to be posted here. Just thought I would check in.

    Thanks,

    Clint


    Worzie's picture

    Sorry cttinsley, no video

    Sorry cttinsley, no video was made recorded. As this was a group project; presentation papers were not prepared. We did however discover that FOG was going to require further investigation.

    The DRBL demo was pretty straight forward. From a LiveCD Andrew did a mock PXE boot image from the host.

    I for one will be testing both in production in the near future.


    Worzie's picture

    September 2008 Meeting

    With the results of the poll I had going over the last week, we have decided to do a dinner at Old Chicago next Thursday the 25th at 7PM.
    Others have asked if we wanted to do a regular meeting this evening anyway. I had not planned for one but as long as you all are up for it... sure thing. So if you get this soon enough, feel free to meet us at Computer4Kids at 7PM.

    Will bring some more books from Pearson publishing. Also it is Shawn's Birthday today!


    Worzie's picture

    Dinner Meeting Reminder

    Don't miss it... dinner at Old Chicago tonight at 7PM in the bar/patio area.

    Hope to see you there!


    lannocc's picture

    InstallFest

    At last month's meeting we began some discussion on an InstallFest to take place at an as-yet-undetermined date and time. I meant to get the discussion notes posted here sooner but they were almost lost in my office move! My apologies on the late posting...

    Time & Place

    • Warren knows of a conference room available for $40

    Target Audience

    • Highschool students
    • College students

    Distros (LiveCD)

    • Ubuntu
    • Fedora
    • Gentoo?

    Hardware

    • Free C4K computers to hand out -- "Linux-powered broadband-ready PCs"
    • Networking gear (switches, etc.)
    • Internet connectivity
    • Old computers...I'm not sure what we meant by this one

    Getting the Word Out

    • School fliers
    • Bring your own PC -- must sign a waiver!
    • BLUG sponsored by C4K
    • Billings Gazette featurette
    • Refreshments
    • Schwagg

    Linux Talking Points

    • Showcase some Linux in action
    • Philosophy of Open Source, open standards
    • List of alternatives to Microsoft software & how to install on chosen distro

    Task Assignments

    • Dan - Gazette featurette
    • Warren - PC waiver
    • Warren - Talk to Alkali Creek school principal
    • Shawn - Talk about philosophy of Open Source

    All the above are just some notes to get the discussion going. Please post any other suggestions, questions, or offers to volunteer your time and/or equipment here or bring them with you to the regularly-scheduled meetings!

    Thanks everyone.


    Worzie's picture

    July 2008 Meeting

    Billings Linux Users Group

    Where:

    Computer4Kids, 4017 1st Ave South.
    North side of street.

    When:

    7PM on Thursday July 17th, 2008

    Speakers:

  • All
  • Talk:

  • Spontaneous
  • Abstract:

    Talk about our latest adventures in Linux, latest in the news. Continue
    plans on Septembers InstallFest. I also have 4 new books to give away:

  • Teach Yourself PHP, MySQL and Apache All in One

  • Refactoring HTML: Improving the Design of Existing Web Applications
  • Running Xen: A Hands-On Guide to the Art of Virtualization
  • Dojo - JavaScript Library to Build Ajax Applications


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